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Poster: Dudley Dead Date: Jul 16, 2011 2:39pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Post drums/space , what would you like to have heard ?

I like space also, but, by being more or less a spontaneous improvisation ( with some loose guidelines/ideas) , sometime it is great , sometimes they don't get anything going . I think you are right , that it became better later (sometimes drums>space , was the best part of the show ).
But by happening every night, in the same place every night ,and always following drums ; it did restrict some choices . Drums>Phil>OO would have been fun again.. Or how about the simple reversing of the sections; say Dark Star>space>Mickey joins them on Beam>Bill joins in and the others leave>then work their way from the more exotic percussion to the kits THEN work their way in to OO, The Wheel, etc .

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Poster: bkidwell Date: Jul 16, 2011 3:24pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Post drums/space , what would you like to have heard ?

There are actually an interesting handful of shows where the usual drums/space format got disrupted. It would make a very good subject for a big essay style post, but I doubt anyone has really brought all the research together. One that is notable is 6/16/90 with a big central jam with players coming on and off stage that doesn't map onto traditional drums/space:

http://www.archive.org/details/gd90-06-16.nak.ladner.7763.sbeok.shnf

A lesser known example of shaking it up is an amazing ultralate show at the Philly Spectrum on 10/5/94 where Jerry stayed onstage for all of the drums:

http://www.archive.org/details/gd94-10-05.sbd.unknown.8030.sbeok.shnf

I know there are more interesting examples, but I don't have good enough notes to identify them quickly.